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		<title>By: Todd Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3028</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mogget, I am working my way through your series for the first time.  Could you identify for me the &quot;seven great councilor decrees&quot;?  I don&#039;t know if they have been my source for proper hermeneutics in biblical theology.

Secondly, do any of the BYU religious profs admit glosses in the BoM as what I see discussed here in the thread?  I am just getting started in my Isaiah studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mogget, I am working my way through your series for the first time.  Could you identify for me the &#8220;seven great councilor decrees&#8221;?  I don&#8217;t know if they have been my source for proper hermeneutics in biblical theology.</p>
<p>Secondly, do any of the BYU religious profs admit glosses in the BoM as what I see discussed here in the thread?  I am just getting started in my Isaiah studies.</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3027</link>
		<dc:creator>HP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bodhi,
&lt;i&gt;Approaching Zion&lt;/i&gt; is mostly social criticism, but very well done social criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bodhi,<br />
<i>Approaching Zion</i> is mostly social criticism, but very well done social criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: bodhi</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3026</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  Odd, this is Nibley&#039;s most popular book (in sales volume) but one I&#039;ve never had much interest in.  (I&#039;ve not had much interest in most of his work, honestly.)  But just for this quote I may be persuaded to pick it up and read it.

I&#039;d love to see a poll or discussion here sometime of Nibley and his influence on the current generation of young scholars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  Odd, this is Nibley&#8217;s most popular book (in sales volume) but one I&#8217;ve never had much interest in.  (I&#8217;ve not had much interest in most of his work, honestly.)  But just for this quote I may be persuaded to pick it up and read it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see a poll or discussion here sometime of Nibley and his influence on the current generation of young scholars.</p>
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		<title>By: Mogget</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3025</link>
		<dc:creator>Mogget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bodhi,

It&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Approaching Zion,&lt;/i&gt; CWHN 9:75.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bodhi,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s <i>Approaching Zion,</i> CWHN 9:75.</p>
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		<title>By: bodhi</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3024</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP: Source for the Nibley quote?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP: Source for the Nibley quote?</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3023</link>
		<dc:creator>HP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Joseph Smith commends their intellectual efforts as a corrective to the Latter-day Saints, who lean too far in the other direction, giving their young people and old awards for zeal alone, zeal without knowledge—for sitting in endless meetings, for dedicated conformity and unlimited capacity for suffering boredom. We think it more commendable to get up at five A.M. to write a bad book than to get up at nine o&#039;clock to write a good one—that is pure zeal that tends to breed a race of insufferable, self-righteous prigs and barren minds.&quot; -&lt;i&gt;Hugh Nibley&lt;/i&gt;
It seemed appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Joseph Smith commends their intellectual efforts as a corrective to the Latter-day Saints, who lean too far in the other direction, giving their young people and old awards for zeal alone, zeal without knowledge—for sitting in endless meetings, for dedicated conformity and unlimited capacity for suffering boredom. We think it more commendable to get up at five A.M. to write a bad book than to get up at nine o&#8217;clock to write a good one—that is pure zeal that tends to breed a race of insufferable, self-righteous prigs and barren minds.&#8221; -<i>Hugh Nibley</i><br />
It seemed appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: dml</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3022</link>
		<dc:creator>dml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is childish to skip Sunday School because you don&#039;t like what is being taught or how it is being taught. Aren&#039;t latter-day saints supposed to be patient and have charity. With a higher education I&#039;m sure all of us could sit for forty-five minutes and show some respect to the teacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is childish to skip Sunday School because you don&#8217;t like what is being taught or how it is being taught. Aren&#8217;t latter-day saints supposed to be patient and have charity. With a higher education I&#8217;m sure all of us could sit for forty-five minutes and show some respect to the teacher.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt B</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3021</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AE -

I think you may have interpreted my vagueness incorrectly; I share your pain.  I skipped Sunday school more than I usually do last year because our teacher spent all of the Isaiah lessons pointing us to various prooftexts and asking which &#039;latter-day&#039; events they &#039;prophesied&#039; - &#039;voice from the dust,&#039; &#039;desert as a rose,&#039; &#039;top of the mountains,&#039; etc.  Now, this sort of thing in my experience tends to be due to simple ignorance rather than willful hostility.  Generally people at least try to assimilate, like Thomas Aquinas - &quot;Well, the child in 7:14 could be referencing both maybe Hezekiah and Christ, right?&quot;  Probably less than half of the time I get hit with outright hostility.

I agree that the best solution to all of this is to force people to read the Bible in context.  Isaiah wasn&#039;t a Mormon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AE -</p>
<p>I think you may have interpreted my vagueness incorrectly; I share your pain.  I skipped Sunday school more than I usually do last year because our teacher spent all of the Isaiah lessons pointing us to various prooftexts and asking which &#8216;latter-day&#8217; events they &#8216;prophesied&#8217; &#8211; &#8216;voice from the dust,&#8217; &#8216;desert as a rose,&#8217; &#8216;top of the mountains,&#8217; etc.  Now, this sort of thing in my experience tends to be due to simple ignorance rather than willful hostility.  Generally people at least try to assimilate, like Thomas Aquinas &#8211; &#8220;Well, the child in 7:14 could be referencing both maybe Hezekiah and Christ, right?&#8221;  Probably less than half of the time I get hit with outright hostility.</p>
<p>I agree that the best solution to all of this is to force people to read the Bible in context.  Isaiah wasn&#8217;t a Mormon.</p>
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		<title>By: SmallAxe</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3020</link>
		<dc:creator>SmallAxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mogget,

My comment was meant descriptively rather than prescriptively. In other words, I don&#039;t think such a dichotomy actually exists--what is helpful is breaking down such a notion (i.e., demonstrating that an &quot;academic&quot; hermeneutic is actually faith creating). My point was rather that we need to be sensitive to the fact that much of this discussion is still taking place where the dichotomous paradigm is assumed to be the norm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mogget,</p>
<p>My comment was meant descriptively rather than prescriptively. In other words, I don&#8217;t think such a dichotomy actually exists&#8211;what is helpful is breaking down such a notion (i.e., demonstrating that an &#8220;academic&#8221; hermeneutic is actually faith creating). My point was rather that we need to be sensitive to the fact that much of this discussion is still taking place where the dichotomous paradigm is assumed to be the norm.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2007/01/a-house-divided/#comment-3019</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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