Comments on: Brand Spanking New

By: Mogget

Mogget — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:53:44 +0000

Yes, I got it — I was just laughing about how we segued so rapidly from my mundane points into your paradox. I thought about writing at more length on the John/Paul diversity, but decided against it.

So. John and Paul both write about sin. Some of their thoughts are reasonably similar, some distinct. Both share the idea of impeccability, that is, the inability to sin, however they have rather different ideas about how this impeccability was/is brought to pass. Both also admit that we do indeed still sin, however, they have different ideas about how to deal with it.

And so on. The best approach is to compare and contrast in order to illuminate the ideas involved. The worst approach is to assume that they must be saying the same thing in every case and then try to “force” the point.

Unity and diversity, unity and diversity. Just like ya gotta let your friends be themselves, so ya gotta let those Biblical authors be themselves, as well. And especially so if you ya wanna be their friends…

By: CE

CE — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:07:43 +0000

Mogget — To be clear, in comment #6 I am referring to CEF’s line of thinking about harmonization in comment #5, not your thinking from the original post. You probably got that, but I can’t tell for sure from your last comment . . .

By: Mogget

Mogget — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:29:16 +0000

If you follow this line of thinking too far, you’ll end up overlooking (or worse, rejecting) the paradoxes on which our religion is built.

Yes, you still have to do your home teaching this month. Nice try, though.

And I bet we can talk about the challenges that harmonization presents w/o worrying about these sorts of issues.

By: CE

CE — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:39:37 +0000

“. . . should the truth not be harmonious?”

If you follow this line of thinking too far, you’ll end up overlooking (or worse, rejecting) the paradoxes on which our religion is built.

By: CEF

CEF — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:14:34 +0000

Thank you Mogget, that made me laugh. However, it made me wonder, should not truth be harmonious?

By: Mogget

Mogget — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:04:08 +0000

Yo Eric. Good to see you again, and thanks.

John Willis: Can’t say as I have an “LDS perspective.”

CEF: If by “throw in” you mean something like “attempt to harmonize” then you deserve whatever angst you generate. Sufficient unto the verse are the challenges thereof, and all that.

By: CEF

CEF — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:24:15 +0000

I think we should throw in 1John 3:9 just to make this a little more muddy. I would love to be in the SS class that tried to tackle it. (Only as a fly on the wall of course)

By: john willis

john willis — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:15:45 +0000

Have you read N.T Wright and others from the New Perspective on Paul and what do you think of their views from an LDS perspective?

By: Eric Nielson

Eric Nielson — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:37:11 +0000

Wonderful as always.