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	<title>Comments on: A Mormon Perspective on Social Justice</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Henrichsen</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2010/03/a-mormon-perspective-on-social-justice/#comment-56663</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Henrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 14:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is so screwed up is that we live in such an unjust nation that so many people view it as &quot;forced&quot; or &quot;government enforced.&quot; That we seem to be able so easily dismiss poverty and inequality in the name of &quot;agency&quot; (because Jesus is really Milton Friedman) makes me baffled and sick. Are we a democracy or a republic? Neither. We are a cesspool of greed and extreme selfishness.

This is ultimately why I am a political philosopher. I can teach and write about ideals while my fellow countrymen and fellow Mormons champion injustice. Too bad. It is the poor that suffer.

Of course Glenn Beck should have defined his terms better. Or better yet, complete morons like Beck should avoid complex ideas that they do not understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so screwed up is that we live in such an unjust nation that so many people view it as &#8220;forced&#8221; or &#8220;government enforced.&#8221; That we seem to be able so easily dismiss poverty and inequality in the name of &#8220;agency&#8221; (because Jesus is really Milton Friedman) makes me baffled and sick. Are we a democracy or a republic? Neither. We are a cesspool of greed and extreme selfishness.</p>
<p>This is ultimately why I am a political philosopher. I can teach and write about ideals while my fellow countrymen and fellow Mormons champion injustice. Too bad. It is the poor that suffer.</p>
<p>Of course Glenn Beck should have defined his terms better. Or better yet, complete morons like Beck should avoid complex ideas that they do not understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2010/03/a-mormon-perspective-on-social-justice/#comment-56579</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 05:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Beck needed to define his terms more clearly.  I think Christians in general do support social justice--but government enforced social justice is a different story, and not something I&#039;m okay with.  He should have been clear that he was referring to churches that promote government enforced social justice, and not the general idea of social justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Beck needed to define his terms more clearly.  I think Christians in general do support social justice&#8211;but government enforced social justice is a different story, and not something I&#8217;m okay with.  He should have been clear that he was referring to churches that promote government enforced social justice, and not the general idea of social justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Henrichsen</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2010/03/a-mormon-perspective-on-social-justice/#comment-52849</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Henrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oudenos.

Thanks for lurking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oudenos.</p>
<p>Thanks for lurking.</p>
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		<title>By: oudenos</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2010/03/a-mormon-perspective-on-social-justice/#comment-52664</link>
		<dc:creator>oudenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely lack the training and vocabulary to adequately discuss even my own sentiments when it comes to modern political philosophy and all things right to left but it gives me great comfort to read the leftist tendencies of other LDS especially those in the academy.  From my brief encounters with modern Marxist criticism and socialist literature, I have become a bit afraid of learning more and then discovering just how far to the left I have moved during my twenties.  Anyhow, nothing to add, just a thank-you from a lefty lurker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely lack the training and vocabulary to adequately discuss even my own sentiments when it comes to modern political philosophy and all things right to left but it gives me great comfort to read the leftist tendencies of other LDS especially those in the academy.  From my brief encounters with modern Marxist criticism and socialist literature, I have become a bit afraid of learning more and then discovering just how far to the left I have moved during my twenties.  Anyhow, nothing to add, just a thank-you from a lefty lurker.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Henrichsen</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2010/03/a-mormon-perspective-on-social-justice/#comment-52624</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Henrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TT,

That is what makes me mad. Like Orwell, I am an anti-Marxist socialist/lefty. While I am  a lefty in the vein of Rousseau and Kant, that Marx guy gets credit for all of our good ideas, even ones like justice, which he rejected.

That said, while Marx was wrong on much, but he was still freaking brilliant. Good food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TT,</p>
<p>That is what makes me mad. Like Orwell, I am an anti-Marxist socialist/lefty. While I am  a lefty in the vein of Rousseau and Kant, that Marx guy gets credit for all of our good ideas, even ones like justice, which he rejected.</p>
<p>That said, while Marx was wrong on much, but he was still freaking brilliant. Good food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2010/03/a-mormon-perspective-on-social-justice/#comment-52616</link>
		<dc:creator>TT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marxism = anything that suggests that some people are more fairly treated than others in the current political, cultural, and structural norms.  The signature of modern rightwing rhetoric is the deployment of terminology that simply cannot fail to command assent. As Orwell (you know he was a socialist, right?) himself recognized, even slavery could be sold if labeled “freedom.” In this vein, who could ever conscientiously oppose the rejection of “communism,” — i.e., an unjust society?

Please, just take a little time to get educated on how the terms &quot;Communism, Marxism, socialism, collectivism&quot; are used today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marxism = anything that suggests that some people are more fairly treated than others in the current political, cultural, and structural norms.  The signature of modern rightwing rhetoric is the deployment of terminology that simply cannot fail to command assent. As Orwell (you know he was a socialist, right?) himself recognized, even slavery could be sold if labeled “freedom.” In this vein, who could ever conscientiously oppose the rejection of “communism,” — i.e., an unjust society?</p>
<p>Please, just take a little time to get educated on how the terms &#8220;Communism, Marxism, socialism, collectivism&#8221; are used today.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Henrichsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Henrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ameritianity,

I am not sure what Beck is talking about. I am talk about SOCIAL justice. This is inherently political.

&quot;Please, just take a little time to get educated on how the term “SOCIAL JUSTICE” is used today.&quot;

You should probably read some of the posts this post link to. I am actually just shy of a doctorate in &quot;leftist&quot; social justice. I am fully aware of what it stands for, because it is what I stand for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ameritianity,</p>
<p>I am not sure what Beck is talking about. I am talk about SOCIAL justice. This is inherently political.</p>
<p>&#8220;Please, just take a little time to get educated on how the term “SOCIAL JUSTICE” is used today.&#8221;</p>
<p>You should probably read some of the posts this post link to. I am actually just shy of a doctorate in &#8220;leftist&#8221; social justice. I am fully aware of what it stands for, because it is what I stand for.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Henrichsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Henrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clark,

I will have to address the issue of force sometime. To be honest, the &quot;force charity&quot; argument is sometimes hard for me to deal with because I think it is pretty lame, but I really should explain why. I does take on a certain libertarian view of agency which is hard to defend. I will have to do so in a full post. However, it may be a few weeks. Thanks for your kind support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark,</p>
<p>I will have to address the issue of force sometime. To be honest, the &#8220;force charity&#8221; argument is sometimes hard for me to deal with because I think it is pretty lame, but I really should explain why. I does take on a certain libertarian view of agency which is hard to defend. I will have to do so in a full post. However, it may be a few weeks. Thanks for your kind support.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Henrichsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Henrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold, I have little doubt that few Mormons would accept this. However, I think that there is a reasonable argument for why they should, whether they do or not (that is one of the more Rawlsian sentences I have ever written). As for the noble and great one, I address it a bit in the comments of&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2009/10/the-mormon-rawls-project-the-original-position-and-the-council-in-heaven-i/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; this post&lt;/a&gt;. I am planning on addressing it is some more detail, soon. Have to write a paper outlining a Mormon theory of distributive justice for next week. What great timing, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold, I have little doubt that few Mormons would accept this. However, I think that there is a reasonable argument for why they should, whether they do or not (that is one of the more Rawlsian sentences I have ever written). As for the noble and great one, I address it a bit in the comments of<a href="http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2009/10/the-mormon-rawls-project-the-original-position-and-the-council-in-heaven-i/" rel="nofollow"> this post</a>. I am planning on addressing it is some more detail, soon. Have to write a paper outlining a Mormon theory of distributive justice for next week. What great timing, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Henrichsen</title>
		<link>http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2010/03/a-mormon-perspective-on-social-justice/#comment-52551</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Henrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marx didn&#039;t really have much to say about justice. It wasn&#039;t his thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marx didn&#8217;t really have much to say about justice. It wasn&#8217;t his thing.</p>
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